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I just wondered what is the latest news out there about the horse?

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Well, actually there's a, you heard the death marion's report that the government hired to come in here?

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You mean Dr. O'Adam?

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Yeah, yeah, so there, and then there has been some different people in and just being sent in, and there was a week ago Sunday

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there was some people here from Ambro who dealt with the hype, was it been canned?

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But other than that, it's just people just keep coming to us to look at the horse, and Life Magazine is just here all afternoon evening

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the lady just left.

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Well what about the horse?

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The horse still don't have any answer.

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Is the horse still on the ground?

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Yes, it's still there.

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Isn't it future-fied?

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Well, it never did smell. This is another odd thing about it. It never had the odor of a dead animal.

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Is there something else on about it?

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No, there's a little bit.

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You know, mostly the hair hasn't slipped like it should ever. I mean it's more like it's been canned.

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Now Mrs. Lewis, how many times have you ever seen an animal that's been dead 30 days or 40 days?

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Oh, quite often because I was raised on an external horse in Cadillac.

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And you've seen them dead for long periods of time?

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Oh, yes, and I was raised in the mountains out there where you see dead deer quite often.

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And so you felt that there was something funny about this animal?

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Oh, definitely.

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Oh, it was cut absolutely right into the bone and then they hadn't met with it like it did dead for years.

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What I'm talking about is I'm talking about the rest of the carcass itself.

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Now, have you talked to any other pathologist about the energy, you know, the abdomen part?

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Did anybody tell you that there should have been intestines and things of this nature?

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There is a horse out here on the game refuse that the manager and one of the employees found the other day that they know it's been dead.

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So they opened and looked and they said the organs are still recognizable.

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However, they're dried up and still up to nothing, but they are recognizable in the horse.

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A year?

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They've eaten up the coyotes.

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They also opened the brain cavity and there was still substance in there.

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And they know this horse has been dead a year.

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Well, this is really something.

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Yes, I thought it was very interesting and they were going to take pictures and mail us information to doctors.

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I haven't talked to them in the last few days.

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I don't know if they've done this, but they were going to.

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Mr. Lord, Mrs. Lord, I found a picture of you in the sunny times of New York City.

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Oh, really?

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Yes, and you were right next to the horse.

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And I'm just wondering if there's a possibility of getting any pictures that you might have in your possession.

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Even a print will make the negatives out of it, the horse or of you around it, you know, things like that.

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I don't know why we were very foolish.

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We didn't take any pictures of us at all.

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We did take pictures of the night cap team working near the horse.

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What about the horse itself?

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And we have several pictures of the horse that the film of Chetan has and I've written for the negatives and I have received them back.

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But I'm sure they will return them.

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If you get any kind of photographs of things that nature, will you send them along to us?

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We've also written a letter to the Pueblo Chetan for any photographs or any articles that they've written, you know, knowing that you do some writing there yourself.

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Well, I did, but I've been so busy on the horse deal the last five weeks I haven't been able to do my job at all for it.

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Hmm. Have you had any other strange sightings out there?

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Oh, yes. In the last three weeks people have been calling me with what they're saying.

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We took a correspondent from the newspaper, Atlas Battery Night, and we saw this barb kicked on the ground and watched it a while.

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How'd it get on the ground?

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Some businessmen had to take the barb kid here about a week ago, ten days ago.

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One was right in the highway outside of town here, and it just keeps going on, you know, these thoughts are exciting.

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You saw something, you yourself saw something on the ground?

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We certainly did.

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From what distance?

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About dreams, would you take them all?

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Well, it was a beam object that swung in the dark, and then it got big and real bright, and then it would go down real little to a little red dot,

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and it would travel fast. I don't know what it was, but it was a natural phenomenon.

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What about when it was on the ground? What did it look like and did you have binoculars?

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We did have binoculars, and well, it would be real bright lighted and get real big, and then it would swing the beam light in the dark around on both sides,

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and then there was two of them that moved toward each other. They went through this heavy brush where we know there's fences and no roads,

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and they moved rapidly, sometimes, sometimes slow, but what they're up to, I don't know.

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Are there any roads up there in that area?

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No, not in the area room, and this is the area below the horse, for some odd reason, that most of the sightings are in that area.

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Let me ask another question. What about the maggots that were supposedly present in the other horse?

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Didn't you say something on the order that the maggots on the horses, the snippies, were dead and the maggots on the other one were alive?

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That is correct. I had told the nightcap team when they came, they said, wonder why the maggots were died on here?

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The night was only sold, and it's been the most freezing at night here.

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But when they went on to the other ones later, they were alive and working very strong.

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How far away was that?

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About three miles southwest of snippy's body.

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How about the elders, is that about the same?

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Same altitude.

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Is there anything else that you might have to say?

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No, I have heard nothing from any of the dead cats or mallets, and this I don't understand because they promised.

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The nightcap put many pictures and slides with strange tracks and holes and all of it, and they promised to send us a set of the pictures and results and tests.

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We have absolutely nothing out of them except government put out some reports that were in distinct disagreement with the facts.

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Which ones would you say those were?

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I read in an article where they said there were no black markings.

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Hundreds of people have seen these when the nightcap people came.

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We asked the spectators, some of the local people here, to stand on the bigger spot, biggest of the spots near them.

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We formed a circle, 79 feet across.

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And when they stood on the smaller spots around the big spot, again it was a circle 15 feet in diameter.

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Now, what is the government office put out the fact that there were no black spots?

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These things I don't understand what they're doing now.

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I'm talking about black spots. I understood the black spots. You mean the whole circle of 75 feet was black?

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No, it's southeast of the horse there about 70 feet from the horse.

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There were these black mud spots that looked like cars, soft and strong on the ground.

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Yes.

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Oh, some of them were 10 inches, some of them 18 inches across.

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All around?

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They were not exactly round. No, they were not still completely.

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So, do you think a circular mark, that they go around the circle?

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Well, no, about every few feet. We picked out these bigger black spots.

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Some of them were all 45 feet apart, some of them a little further.

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But when people stood on the biggest of these spots all around, they were the people for them to serve them.

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Right, 75 feet across.

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Now, why didn't you pick up some of that black material yourself and save it?

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I have some in my car right now.

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Let me ask you a question. If you went down to the drugstore and got yourself a little vial, or if you had one at home, would you mind sending us some?

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I will do it.

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Really? Really?

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I have a little bit in a plastic bag that I took to. First we get the marks with pills. It's filling the truck.

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If you'll send us some of it, you don't have to send us all. I want you to keep some of it, because I think you should have kept some of that for your own, you know, for your own self.

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But we'd like to have any portion of it that you'll send us.

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Alright.

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Anything that you have that you would like, you wouldn't mind sharing with us. We'll paper anything.

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I have a little bit of that name at first, that I left a mark on my hand, or at least I found it in the first where I first found it. I'm sure it's the same name. I can put a little of that in.

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And it is locked and locked.

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You don't have any of that?

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Well I can get some, I mean as you're still around the Lord.

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Well I would, we would appreciate anything you can do for us in that respect, and we're doing everything we can to break this mystery as much as we can anyway, and we're willing to help you if you're willing to help us a little bit.

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I would like to get some of this to someone who would personally give me a report on it. I'm sure the government has no intentions of giving out any report.

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I'll tell you what we do we we intend to do something with it. We'll see what we can do about a chemical analysis

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Okay, I'm just wondering though if the chemical

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Processes of keeping that animal out there for such a long time in a dead state wouldn't change the height to a darkness

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Don't either but we can find out somebody that does

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There is no tanning on it

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Who really labs that were doing the analysis

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Nature

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Austin folder

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Kansas God here one of the men found the end of it at top of the was

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I'm sure it would give an answer.

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But how am I going to get it out of the government?

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Who they have come out with distinct lives.

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It sounds like you're about right because if they've already made remarks

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for the effect that there was no black mark around it and you know that there was.

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Hundreds of people saw them.

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I know but that's what I'm saying. It's consistent with your ideas.

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How are you going to believe whatever they say later on?

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They said a number of things that were distinctly wrong.

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There was no blood around that horse or no tracks.

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There was this strong medicine odor.

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Not unpleasant but very strong.

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I heard the government man on a broadcast and he was saying

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they asked him what the smell was and the horse had a silk cut in mercy

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which was his stupid explanation.

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And he said well, he said the blood was probably there but they didn't see it.

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And the smell, he said was probably fizzles.

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But there are any fizzles in the pasture.

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And you will.

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Those up around fizzles. They do not smell.

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This is so infuriating. They have given out these lies.

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I mean it just makes you so mad you can't stand it.

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They didn't come in to investigate. They came in to repudiate.

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No, hey, what you saying?

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They came in here to intimidate and call people liars and spit them investigate.

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And are you sure it's the truth of the condom group also?

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I'm speaking of the condom group only.

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The cap team was very courteous and very thorough and very nice.

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But they were hired by condom's office.

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All the information they took back went to condom's office.

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Are you under the impression that the NYCAP group has surrendered the materials

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to a Westinghouse laboratory?

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No, the Apperel group said they were sending theirs to Westinghouse laboratory.

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Do you know who's doing it for NYCAP?

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They were giving it to condom's office.

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They said they would have to turn everything over to him that they took back.

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That's where they made their mistake.

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Well, or I made my mistake.

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Well, the thing about it is that the NYCAP group should have never surrendered

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their whole, the complete propriety to anything that they found.

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Well, I don't know that they did, but they did tell me.

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I said, well, I know the results.

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They said we will have to turn everything over to Dr. Condom's office

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since we were hired by him.

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And they wouldn't know when I would know the results.

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In fact, he said it might even be a year before they get all those tests made.

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Oh boy. I'm sure glad that Apperel got something on that.

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Well, they got some, but I've never heard a word from them.

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Well, it takes time. It takes time to run these tests.

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Then you have to evaluate them besides, you see.

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Well, I realized that they knew that, but they never let me know anything.

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Well, if they don't have...

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Maybe my attitude about the government is wrong, but I don't think so.

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You see, they tried to say we were lying, and I asked them to give me a

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lighting detector test, and they refused.

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At what point did they suggest you were lying?

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Well, he said that the tracks were probably there, and we didn't see them.

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The blood was there, and we didn't see it.

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We were smelling pickles, not something else.

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There are no black marks. Well, he said there were none.

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There definitely is. These kind of things, I don't understand.

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And you did volunteer a lighting detector test?

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I certainly did.

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You got nerve?

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What?

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I said you got a lot of nerve.

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I was telling the truth, sir, and I'd be glad if anybody would give me one,

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because not only I, but my husband and my older brother

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are not people who go around lying.

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And you all volunteered again?

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Absolutely.

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Very good.

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And I still do, and the Life Magazine representative was here today,

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and I asked her to see if she could make arrangements

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and see that I was given one, and not have a government investigator read it, though.

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Some reliable person to read it, not connected with the government.

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Some neutral person.

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That is correct.

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Well, you've given us quite a bit to think about here.

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Well, I'm dropping in nothing, the rock pile around here.

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No, you are.

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I'm talking about the government, but I am telling the truth, and they're not.

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That's right.

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Well, I'm telling you the truth. This is what they did.

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But the government office did.

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But they only go in to get the evidence of whatever they can get,

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and so they can turn around calling your liars,

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and they try to get away with anything you've got.

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Well, it seems that way anyway.

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Maybe there's a reason, but I don't quite fathom it.

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I wouldn't have believed it two months ago.

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I just wouldn't have believed it myself, but I do know.

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All right, another version out from there has been no further development

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as far as the horse is concerned.

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Nobody else has taken another pathological test of it.

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Not that I know of.

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What about this anonymous pathologist?

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He heard nothing from him.

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Other than the first call, I said it would be three weeks at least

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before he could get his culture's name, and I have never heard another name from him.

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I know, and you do know him, though.

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Well, I thought I knew him.

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He gave me this name, and then someone mailed me a picture of the scientist,

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and I think it's his picture, and it's a different name than what he gave me.

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Is that right?

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So there you are. I guess he didn't give me his name in the first place.

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Are you afraid of giving this the scientist's name?

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Well, I promised him I would not.

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Oh, that's right, too.

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Or he said he wouldn't give me the results in the past.

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Oh, boy.

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But he exists, and I could get to at least 12-cent alimony,

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so who could tell you they listened to it all?

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Of reputable papers.

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Who could tell you all the time you watched him do it.

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I see there were about 20 of you, weren't there?

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Yes. There were six college students whose names I don't have there that night,

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but I have at least 12 names that I could get.

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There is a photograph you should have taken.

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Yes, he wouldn't have taken a photo of that.

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Oh, that's right, too. Anonymous again.

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Yes, he wouldn't have.

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All right, I see.

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Well, I think we've learned a heck of a lot.

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The more you talk, the more we've seen the good.

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Well, we just haven't actually, we just haven't learned anything.

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We're right where we were at the beginning.

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Yes, I have.

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We learned.

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You're going to see the mores.

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I still receive a lot of calls, a lot of mail,

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and I've been unable to answer them all.

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I haven't got any of the phone numbers done,

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and it just keeps going on and on,

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and yet we still don't have any more answers.

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Now, listen, we haven't gotten the answers yet,

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and we've seen a lot of things, and we've heard a lot of stories.

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And so don't expect answers so quickly. You're impatient.

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You seem very impatient.

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That's true, I guess.

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Yes, it's true.

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All right, then I'll tell you what now.

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You promised us some things,

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and we're going to hold you as an honorable person to those promises.

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We'll test the heck out of you.

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Well, I am not going to put it with my bank of stuff.

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You won't believe me, but I have got a huge discount

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full of letters and presents.

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I will pay them up here by the phone,

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and not only I can't get mixed up.

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Fine, because we've made three telephone calls out there,

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and each one of them is a costly thing,

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and we're very, very happy to have talked to you tonight.

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And I hope to hear from you again very soon.

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Well, I appreciate your interest, and your interest in the truth.

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Okay, then thank you very much, Mr. Lewis.

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Thank you.

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And good night, and we do appreciate that.

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Good night, thank you.

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Good night.